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More Canon Mirrorless Cameras Coming in 2015!?

By Anthony Thurston on March 11th 2015

We heard that 2015 could be the ‘year of the mirrorless’ for Canon, but after the launch of the new EOS M3, and its exclusion from the North American market, that seemed to all be a bunch of crap. But now we are hearing that Canon may not be done yet. Could we have more mirrorless options from Canon on the way?

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According to a new rumor report over on Mirrorless Rumors, a source has told them that Canon will have 4 mirrorless cameras launched by the time 2015 is over. We have had one so far (the EOS M3), so that leaves three more releases in the remaining months. But wait! Another source clarified that at least one of those mirrorless options was a 4K camcorder, so let’s remove that from our calculations as well – which means that we could have one or two more mirrorless camera releases in 2015.

Could one of them be a full frame mirrorless to compete with the Sony A7 series? Or maybe a vintage-styled EOS M to compete with the Fujifilm cameras? At this point, we really don’t know what it is we will be getting out of Canon, just that (grain of salt applied) one or two more mirrorless options are on the way this year.

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This could be nothing, as is the case with many rumors, or it could be a defining year in the mirrorless market. Sony and Fujifilm are running away with the APS-C/Full Frame mirrorless markets, but if Canon plays its cards right, and whatever they release is truly competitive with those offerings – especially if one was full frame and retained EOS lens compatibility with proper AF performance – Canon could possibly halt the hemorrhaging… maybe.

Things could be getting very interesting. I know I can’t wait to see what comes of this. What are your thoughts on this rumors? Do you think Canon has some more serious mirrorless options still on the way? Leave a comment below and let us know!

[via Mirrorless Rumors]

Anthony Thurston is a photographer based in the Salem, Oregon area specializing in Boudoir. He recently started a new project, Fiercely Boudoir to help support the growing boudoir community. Find him over on Instagram. You may also connect with him via Email.

Q&A Discussions

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  1. Ben Young

    I don’t think the camera is the problem for Canon, it’s more to do with the lenses.
    OK, their, mirrorless cameras so far haven’t been any to get excited about, but I’m sure if they wanted to they could make one that could match at least the Fujifilm XT-1.
    But I think their real challenge lies with supporting another lens mount.

    I’m still yet to be tempted to buy into mirrorless cameras. I’ve borrowed a XT-1 for 3 days with 4 different lenses and used only that camera for those days that I had it.
    I didn’t like it. At least not when shooting handheld, which was most of the time. But when mounted on a tripod I preferred it over my Canon camera.
    I’ve spent some time on 3 different occasions messing around with the Sony A7r in shops. I like it better than the XT-1 and it really did make me think “can I switch to this [A7r] from my Canon?” The answer was still no.
    I would consider the A7r (or A7r II when that comes) more seriously if Sony had more native fast glass.
    But until they have that in place they won’t be able to get me to reconsider.

    So, back to Canon and their mirrorless system – even if they did release a fantastic mirrorless camera, before I went from my Canon DSLR to Canon mirrorless, they’d have get a whole new ecosystem of EF-M lens in place to replace all my EF lenses. Or at least most of them.
    OK, I can use my EF lenses too, via an adapter. And maybe I could live with the EF to EF-M adapter while they build up the their native EF-M lens lineup. But they’d have to commit and follow through.

    And on that note – the smaller size of the mirrorless cameras is something that I don’t like.
    This was the main reason for not liking the XT-1. Ergonomics!
    I don’t have massive hands, but I wouldn’t consider my hands to be on the smaller side of average. But holding the XT-1 in my hands and shooting with was clumsy at best.
    As well as just feeling too small, I kept bumping buttons and knobs and somehow I kept unwillingly opening the battery compartment cover.
    The A7r suited my hands better than the XT-1. And I believe the MK II models of the A7 series will suit even better with their deeper grip. I liked the button/dial layout better than the XT-1.
    Also without having held the A7 MK II, the position of the shutter release button looks like it is better placed too.
    So, there is hope that maybe a mirrorless camera may suit my hands.

    My DSLR has a battery grip attached to it which never comes off. So I’ve not afraid of the size of DLSRs.
    It’s actually what I like about them – the ergonomics they offer. Mainly because of the button and dial layout, but also for their big grips which seems to suit my hands.
    I want a camera that I can handle easily yet confidently without worrying about it slipping from my grip.

    So, until a mirrorless camera can give me ergonomics that side with me and a range of native lenses that I’d be happy with I’ll be sticking to my DSLR.
    I’m not saying that mirrorless ins’t any good. To the contrary. I believe it is the future and I can imagine switching to mirrorless but at this point in time it just isn’t ready for me.

    If I had to choose mirrorless today, it’d be one of the Sony A7 cameras, without a doubt.

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  2. Peter Nord

    I like my cute little Canon SX60. Shooting 1300mm hand held resolves the moons of Jupiter. What fun!

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    • Dave Haynie

      There’s definitely a use in P&S cameras, even if you have others. I have a Fujifilm X-S1… not quite the crazy zoom range of the SX60, but the 2/3″ sensor is not horrible in low light compared to the P&S cameras I’ve had in the past. The thing is pretty massive — larger than my OM-D with its largest lens. But there are times and places I’m better off without an expensive camera. I got to a music festival every year and they don’t allow ILCs. And it’s also not too bad to have 24-624 equivalent range in one lens that doesn’t have to be changed, giving the camera a chance to fill will dust. I also have a much smaller P&S that lives in my car most of the time, so that the best camera I have with me is rarely if ever my smartphone.

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  3. Tanya Goodall Smith

    Man, they need to get their behinds in gear before I jump ship to Sony. I’m dying for a smaller camera.

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  4. Amri Rohayat

    Canon should replace their EF-S line with the EF-M line, rather than going fullframe mirrorless:

    1) They don’t have that many EF-S lenses in the first place. 2) The ones they do have aren’t really anything special. 3) On the other hand, the 22mm 2.0 STM pancake for the EOS-M is very good, as are the tiny zooms. 4) EF-S — in a bigger and heavier package — doesn’t offer anything significantly better than APS-C Fuji, Sony or even m4/3. 5) EOS-M, on the other hand, does video better than the other mirrorless players bar Panasonic (and Sony A7s) — a major advantage. 6) You can adapt almost any old lens to the EOS-M mount for video — another major advantage over EF-S; try using Leica M lenses on a Digital Rebel.

    The lens adaptability is one big reason why Canon is probably reluctant to grow the EF-M range — it means they’ll sell fewer lenses, their bread and butter. But EF-S is effectively in a dead space, given the intense competition from mirrorless systems that are getting better each year. Even if they don’t want to, I think they will have to.

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  5. Jean-Francois Perreault

    I don’t believe these Canon rumors anymore. I’ve been disappointed too many times.
    So I did what I said I would do and sold my Canon gear for an X-T1 and I couldn’t be happier.

    I don’t see how Canon would release a “good” mirrorless camera just a couple of months after releasing the M3.
    The M3 was a “we really don’t know where we’re going with mirrorless” kind of camera. I don’t think they figured it out after a month.

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    • Dave Haynie

      I didn’t necessarily believe the rumor mill on these kinds of things, but it hasn’t been too off-the-mark, lately. I still have my Canon gear, but I’m close to duplicating all functionality with the OM-D system. Even if Canon did mirrorless, I don’t think they would have delivered anything like Olympus did. Not to mention how hungry Olympus is… every new model has a bunch of cool new tweaks (high resolution mode, live time, live bulb, various multishot modes, 5-axis IBIS, etc). For Canon, not so much.

      Canon could certainly release a “pro” mirrorless camera in a few months. It’s not as if they only have team of engineers working on new cameras. It is more of a marketing issue: do they need a pro mirrorless, and if so, what is it: EF, M, or something else?

      I like to dub the EOS-M series as Canon’s “mirrorless hobby”, along with Nikon’s 1 and Pentax’s Q. None of these traditional DSLR companies have tackled mirrorless anywhere near the way Olympus, Fujifilm, Sony, Samsung, etc. have. Those guys see the possibility of a major shift in the market, and are trying to be the guys there when it takes off. Canon, Nikon, and Pentax are content with the existing market, and rightfully concerned that, if they make the move to mirrorless a serious one, that might prove exactly what the other guys want it to be: an actual move. Not just yet another body to add to an existing line of products.

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  6. Dave Haynie

    Canon’s got a real quandry here. I don’t see them releasing a serious line of EOS-M mount lenses, particularly given the small market for those right now. Their real strength is the existing EF line, and that’s really what they support. Even EF-S is kind of a weak lineup, but that isn’t a huge issue, since those work on APS bodies, too. But it’s not a first-class system if the only lenses worth using are via an adapter (kind of Sony’s problem so far).

    So where do they even put a pro-level mirrorless? If it’s an EF-mount camera, where’s the advantage versus a regular DSLR? They’d be better off making a hybrid DSLR — viewfinder with both optical and electronic options, lock up the mirror when you want to. That would be really interesting as well as unique in the industry for awhile. Though it would open even more questions about the EOS-M line.

    And here’s the other thing… if Canon does release a serious mirrorless camera or two, do they play right into the hands of the established mirrorless companies? Even the president of Fujifilm said he’d welcome Canon, since that would help legitimize the mirrorless technology, at least in the minds of some. The hybrid idea kind of lets them play mirrorless without really endorsing mirrorless as a professional option, which would also be a win for Canon.

    I’m also not certain that just going mirrorless really helps anyone, if you stick with full frame. After all, a full frame lens is a full frame lens. My 25lbs of Canon gear would lose 7 ounces if I traded in my 6D body for Canon’s answer to the Sony A7. No real size advantage, as there is with my Olympus system. I guess you have to define what you see as the mirrorless advantage. If it’s not primarily size, what is it? And if it’s not primarily size, that’s making a perfect case for Canon to go hybrid.

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    • Jean-Francois Perreault

      Interesting thoughts. Sure a hybrid DSLR would make sense but I think the “benefits” of mirrorless is more of a combination of a few things like size+evf+weight+… rather than just one single thing.
      A hybrid DSLR would only get an EVF, same weight, same size. Would that be enough? Personally, I don’t think so but maybe others would think so.

      I think Canon’s main concern is how to integrate mirrorless into their EOS system. I’m not sure they’re hot on the idea of creating a completely new line of lenses (EOS-M). Maybe they’re trying to figure out how to make a mirrorless system that would seamlessly work with the current EF and EF-S lineup, with or without an adapter.
      Having too many lines divides resources, which slows progression down. And we all know how slow Canon is sometimes. I’m sure they’d rather have more people creating and improving their current lines than wasting time creating the same lenses for another mount.

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    • Dave Haynie

      Kind of my point, though… sure, size and weight is a mirrorless advantage. But if you’re building a full frame system, then… not so much. As I said, the Sony A7 would save me 7oz over my Canon EOS 6D. Most of the weight in a pro DSLR is there to make it a pro DSLR — room for controls, water resistance, metal body, etc.

      I like my OM-D system precisely because of the savings in size and weight, but that would be negligible if all the lenses were the same size.

      But I also do get lots of advantages out of an EVF. All of the control information I want it there: histogram, camera H and V level indicators, etc. You’d have that too in the hybrid, overlaying your optical view — kind of what Fujifilm did.

      I’m not suggesting this would be the best way forward for everyone. But it’s pretty clear: the traditional DSLR guys, other than Sony (who’s DSLR wasn’t really THEIR tradition) are treating mirrorless as a hobby right now. They know their strength is their system, and changing to an entirely new system still puts them behind Fujifilm, Olympus, Sony, and Panasonic at this point. If I need to change lens mounts, why buy another Canon?

      There’s also some sense in the blogosphere that mirrorless is somehow inevitable. I don’t necessarily agree, and I definitely don’t think that Canon or Nikon do, either. Sony does seem to be going over to their mirrorless line with both feet, but that’s just as established these days as their old Minolta-mount system. Could either Canon or Nikon really manage two separate professional camera systems? That never seems to work very well for anyone.

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    • Ralph Hightower

      Mirrorless looks to be a trend. Two months ago, two members of the local camera club gave a presentation on mirrorless cameras. Another member covertly announced that he bought a mirrorless. At last month’s meeting, two members who use Canon announced they went to mirrorless.

      Considering that I was the last to go digital in 2014, I think it will be a long while before I go mirrorless. If I ditch the motor drives of my film cameras, Canon A-1 and F-1N, they would probably be the same size and weight as mirrorless.

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  7. Pye

    Canon’s got some crazy work ahead of them man, if they want to compete with Panasonic, Sony, Leica, and all the other manufacturers that have some crazy stuff right now in the mirrorless market. I am excited to see what they come out with.

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  8. Jeff Ladrillono

    Damn blood. Came on here when I got a second to check out the articles and wasn’t expecting to see my photo of my 650 on the front page. Hahaha.

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  9. adam sanford

    It’s like you don’t want me to get any work done today, Anthony. :-P

    Canon’s track record of supporting its three mounts with native lenses is poor — so a *fourth* by going to FF mirrorless strikes me as a dubious in 2015. So I think they will offer a proper EOS-M with the EF-M mount with enthusiast/pro features like DPAF and a proper integral EVF.

    Canon FF mirrorless must be coming, but one would think that the APS-C mirrorless would build some kind of beachhead of marketshare/mindshare first.

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    • Rafael Steffen

      Would be an interesting release to see in which direction or new feature there are bringing to the market.

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    • adam sanford

      Agree. On APS-C / EF-M mount, their path is painfully clear. Give us DPAF, give us an integral EVF and give us proper small, fast, EF-M native lenses. In other words: Canon should give a s— about supporting the EOS-M brand and growing it. Heck, they could even be brave enough to offer something so nice that I might steal some Rebel sales. (The horror.)

      On the FF side, your guess is as good as mine.

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