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Latest Adobe Lightroom Update Completely Disorganizes Presets

By Matthew Saville on April 4th 2018

[UPDATE: The SLR Lounge Preset System has been made fully compatible with Adobe Lightroom CC (Classsic and Cloud) 7.3, and the corresponding Camera Raw update to Adobe Bridge and Photoshop) Please see this post here for an in-depth description of the bugs, and how to fix them, or check out the SLR Lounge Lightroom Preset System.]

Adobe has released a major update to Lightroom CC, both the “Classic” version and the new all-cloud “CC” version. This update focuses mainly on an all-new Profiles system which is far more robust than the previous handful of Profiles offered.

Firstly, they claim to be able to bring different cameras’ raw images closer together, for those who want to use different cameras and have the images appear identical in post-production.

Secondly, they offer numerous stylized options, both Adobe’s own recipes for things like Landscapes and Portraits, as well as a higher quality version of each camera manufacturer’s own in-camera Profiles, known as Picture Styles on Canon and Picture Controls on Nikon, for example.

Another video from Adobe, showcasing the same new options but within the environment of the new mobile-optimized, all-cloud LR CC:

All in all, it could prove to be an incredible new feature. In fact, it may be the exact type of update that everybody talks about, and eventually considers to be a major turning point for Adobe in its quest to maintain dominance at a time when alternative raw converters are popping up like weeds after an El Niño rain.

The Adobe Lightroom Update Preset Sort Order Bug

Unfortunately, it wouldn’t be a true Adobe update without a bug! One so glaring, and annoying, that you don’t know whether to laugh, cry, or smash your computer a la Office Space.

Apparently, Adobe has forgotten how to count: Innumerable LR users who own huge collections of Develop Module presets that are organized with letters or numbers are reporting that presets are now randomly appearing out of order.

Unfortunately, this does affect the SLR Lounge Preset System, and we are actively investigating potential solutions to the problem.

In the meantime, if you have an Adobe account, please visit this page here on Adobe’s support forum, login to your account, and click the “I have the same question” button at the bottom of the first post. Unfortunately, it is likely that the only solution to this problem will be to wait for Adobe to figure out how to sort presets by name, and produce another update. (It is possible, for example, that presets are now being sorted by date created instead.)

UPDATE: The sort order problem appears to be caused by a discrepancy in the code of the new Lightroom Develop Preset files. Embedded within the code of the file, there are two different names; Lightroom was previously not smart enough to keep those names matched if you changed the name of a preset. You can rename presets both from inside Lightroom, and outside of Lightroom. Either way, it seems that fixing the errors could require many, many hours of meticulous code copy+paste work:

As Per Usual: Other Stability Concerns

While Presets being out of numerical or alphabetical order could almost be considered cute, in the grand scheme of Adobe update bugs, that’s not the only report that is surfacing. A number of reports of stability issues are also popping up, including the time-honored traditions: crashing, and slowness.

In short: If you haven’t yet updated Lightroom, Photoshop, or Adobe Camera Raw, you may want to hold off for a few days. If any updates are released from Adobe, we will bring you that information as soon as possible!

Adobe Press Release: New Profiles And More

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    So how about creating a preset system for Capture 1? I’m loosing my patience with Lightroom and started using capture one and its been great so far. Would love to see your preset for that system.

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  2. William Johns

    I did the update, and now any kind of zooming in for brush work is painfully slow. Lightroom went from abysmally slow, to a little faster, to even more abysmally slow all within a few updates! 

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  3. Motti Bembaron

    Also, when trying to make a new preset folder I use to just right click on one of the preset folders, now you have to click on the + sign to add a preset and then click on group drop down and create a new folder.

    But the biggest problem is Lightroom now behaves in the same bad manner it did before the performance update they released a round a month ago.

    Moving from photo to photo, using the Local Adjustment tools, etc. is again a pain.

    I should have stayed with the older version (how many times I said that about Lightroom…)

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    • Matthew Saville

      [EDIT: this reply was supposed to appear first.]

      I’ve said that to myself many times as well. I usually wait to update EVERYTHING electronic, in my entire life, from my computer OS to my phone, everything. I try to never be a “beta tester”. (Because that’s what we are, today. Beta testers. Or should I say Gamma testers?) With CC, if you really want to I believe you can roll back to a previous version pretty easily though…

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  4. hi there

    There is more *forum activity* over here:

    I think it’s all because Adobe probably had an idea of the mess it would create, but also couldn’t anticipate the scale and depth.  So they went ahead with the zero release.

    Once they have an overview, it shouldn’t be hard to make a batch script to solve most problems. It will also create new problems, but that’s the nature of the beast.

    Nonetheless, I am also cynical enough to believe that Adobe may let us solve it ourselves. I am also optimistic enough about people to think that somebody else will make a batch script then.

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  5. Ondrej

    …and what it makes with B&W presets or MiDi controllers…. grrr

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    • Ondrej

      This solves the problem with changing the “legacy” Adobe Standard BW profile to color when its combined with other presets (for now):
      1. use one of your old B&W presets (Adobe Standard BW profile)
      2. change profile to one of 17 profiles in BW section
      3. set amount of profile effect to zero (0%)
      4. update your preset

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  6. Alex Corbett

    I did do the update and noticed the mess over in the presets panel. Thankfully it won’t be a huge issue for me, as I don’t really use presets. 

    I’d love if they made profiles their own pane in LR Classicl, like they did in LRCC. While also giving me the option to hide it. 

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