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By Anthony Thurston on September 4th 2015

Welcome to our roundup series where we will hit on several gear news and rumor topics each day. This gives you a chance to get caught up on all of the day’s news and rumors in one place. Make sure to check back daily for the latest gear news, rumors, and announcements.

Canon 50mm f/1.2L Update Rumblings

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Both Sigma and Zeiss have killed it with their recent respective 50mm lens launches, and this has put a lot of pressure on Canon to update their own 50mm offerings. It started with a revamp of the 50mm F/1.8, and now there are rumblings that an update could be coming for the 50mm F/1.2L.

The first thing people have been pointing to is the sudden disappearance of the 50mm F/1.2L from Canon USA’s website. This could just be an error of some kind, like what happened with the 17-55mm, or it could be a sign. The other thing people have noticed is the recent price drop of the 50mm F/1.2L, which is often something Canon does prior to a new launch; on its own, it isn’t really proof of much, though.

In my opinion, the 50mm F/1.2L is fine for now. It is the 50mm F/1.4 that needs a revamp. That lens is crazy old and has not been a competitive option for Canon shooters in a long while. With lenses like Tamron’s new 45mm F/1. 8 launching with great performance and a low price, the need for an updated 50mm F/1.4 is greater.

What do you think?

WiFi Finally Coming to More Canon Bodies?

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Back when the Canon 7D Mark II was announced, one of the biggest things everyone noticed was the blatant lack of WiFi connectivity. It was a feature that was included in the 6D, but has otherwise been omitted from all Pro-Level Canon bodies.

The excuse, as I will call it, has been that the metal bodies and extensive weather sealing had caused issues with WiFi reliability in the past, so Canon nixed it all together. But now, it appears, Canon has developed a method for getting WiFi into their upcoming Pro level bodies.

This new US Patent indicates that the all metal hotshoe has been an issue for Canon, causing interference with their previous WiFi efforts. The solution, according to the patent, involves a “configuration in which the wireless communication unit is arranged on the inclined surface (Dach surface) of the pentaprism such that the accessory shoe does not disturb a radio wave upon wireless communication.

Basically, by moving the wireless unit to a different location, Canon has been able to eliminate the WiFi connectivity issues. WiFi is not a feature that many of us use a ton, but it is still nice to have. For example, I would have loved to have it this week while I was testing those new Tamron lenses, I could have been posting to Twitter and Instagram from the event rather than having to wait until I got back to the hotel.

What do you all think about Canon and WiFi connectivity? Should they make sure to include it going forward or is it not a big deal to you?

Sony To Update Two A Mount Lenses Soon?

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According to a new report over on Sony Alpha Rumors, Sony is preparing to update two of its popular telephoto portrait primes for their A-mount system. The lenses in question: the 135mm F/1.8 and the 85mm F/1.4.

The interesting thing here is that the updates will essentially just be to the AF systems, with the optical quality remaining generally the same for the two lenses. Normally I would like to see at least some optical improvements or modifications, but maybe Sony sees the AF as the primary shortfall of these two lenses and is taking an ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ mentality in regards to the optical formula.

Regardless A-Mount rumors are few and far between these days. So you A-mount hold outs, enjoy this one while it lasts. I’m sure that several E-mount rumors are not too far off, ha!

What are your thoughts on today’s roundup? What news/rumors did we miss? What would you like to see covered in future roundups? Leave a comment below and let us know what you think!

Anthony Thurston is a photographer based in the Salem, Oregon area specializing in Boudoir. He recently started a new project, Fiercely Boudoir to help support the growing boudoir community. Find him over on Instagram. You may also connect with him via Email.

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  1. Fisnik Islami

    that would be better if that was 85 mm

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  2. Markdean Masanque

    Would be nice if I have the funds.

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  3. Ralph Hightower

    What I’d prefer over WiFi is GPS tagging.

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    • Dustin Baugh

      You can do that with WIFI. The app on your phone tracks the GPS and then you sync it to the camera and the photos are geotagged. The benefit is you don’t have to leave the GPS on all the time sucking battery since you smartphone is doing it.

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  4. Matthew Saville

    If Canon does too many more high-end, high-dollar new lenses before they get back to making new affordable STM non-L primes, they’re only digging a deeper grave for themselves in the face of Sigma, Tamoron, and Tokina competition. Especially now that Tamron has made it clear they’re going to put a very serious bid in the market of affordable primes and not just zooms. Tamron’s f/2.8 zoom lineup has been a smash hit so far, nailing a pretty good price point / value ratio.

    Meanwhile, Canon seems content to release “trophy” lenses that are $3,000 specialty zooms (11-24) or $1,800 specialty primes (35 L mk2) which, while awesome performers, are simply not for the masses.

    It is very common knowledge at this point that, while having a claim to fame / prestigious high-end lens lineup is a good thing, the majority of both Canon and Nikon profits come from low-end lens and body sales due to the significantly higher sales volume.

    Canon has so far only done a half-hearted refresh of their ancient 50 1.8 optical formula, and a couple “high-end but affordable” f/2.8 or f/2 primes with IS, plus a couple relatively affordable STM kit zooms. However in the face of Nikon’s killer (and now 100% complete) lineup of f/1.8 primes, and Tamron’s f/1.8 primes plus Sigma’s f/1.4 ARTs, …Canon seems to have already lost the battle of quality / value for any lens under $1K.

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    • adam sanford

      So, Canon should offer more $250 primes with STM and lower feature sets than $500 primes with USM, IS, internal focusing, etc.?

      I understand the economics of the former, but I crave the latter. Those non-L IS USM refreshes are ‘sleeper L’ lenses in tiny packages for 1/3 the price of their red-ringed brothers. I want more of *those*. If Canon should offer one of those to replace the 50 f/1.4 USM, they can take my money on day one.

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    • Matthew Saville

      No, I don’t expect Canon to release an entire lineup of $250 lenses. $200-250 is already the new $100, in terms of the “nifty fifty” budget f/1.8, and that’s just about the only lens I think can be optically decent for under $500.

      Actually, aside from the 50mm f/1.8 G, all of Nikon’s killer 1.8 G primes are between $500 and $800, from 20mm to 85mm there’s five of them! (Six if you count the 50 1.8)

      That is also approximately where both Tamron and Sigma seem to be hitting hard; Sigma going for broke with hefty pro-grade f/1.4 glass and Tamron going for (apparently) lighter weight yet hopefully “perfect” f/1.8 optical variations.

      TLDR, Canon desperately needs a new 50 1.4 and 85 1.8, as well as some sort of wide fast prime. (Their 24 and 28 2.8 IS are nice for many things, but for quite a few folks stabilization just doesn’t replace sheer speed. The 35 f/2 IS was a very hopeful step in the right direction, for me at least, however that was 2012, it’s been about three years and all we’ve seen since is the same 50 1.8 optical formula in a new skin.

      I compared the number of lenses released at over $1K versus under, and it’s just not a pretty picture unless you’re into variable aperture crop-sensor lenses. Having said that, Nikon’s numbers aren’t that pretty either; they’ve done their fair share of releasing pricey “big gun” lenses in the past 5 years, and only barely edge out Canon in terms of sub-$1K lenses that actually appeal to serious photographers. You could also easily argue that Canon, who put IS in three of their (slow) wider primes, has done a better job of catering to video shooters which is a good idea considering the future of stills/video “fusion”.

      So, maybe these are just normal, healthy product cycles we are seeing right now. It’s just difficult to be right in the middle of a third-party lens revolution at the same time Canon is apparently more interested in releasing $1800 35mm primes, and a lord-knows-how-expensive 50mm f/1.2 mk3…

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    • Stephen Jennings

      Nikon’s 1.8 line is amazing value, in my opinion. The ones I’ve used suffer chromatic abberations like no other set of lenses I’ve ever used.. but that’s really the only issue I’ve noticed with them, not something that would really hold me back from buying more either. Their 1.4 lineup is over priced and soft… I don’t see how these 1.2 and 1.4 lenses will compete with the value offered by Sigma or potentially Tamron if they went with larger apertures. Some people, myself included, will always prefer native lenses just for the assurance that it will work with my Nikon gear (Sigma missing focus, getting a Sigma dud, etc) You buy a Nikon lens with a Nikon body, it will work perfectly. Canon with a Canon. Third party there’s always that slight risk (in my opinion) .. so it’d be great to see Nikon and Canon accepting the challenge put down by Sigma, Tamron, Rokinon, and even Zeiss … improve your lenses, drop your prices … or continue getting your ass spanked by the competition.

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    • adam sanford

      @Matthew, then we’re talking about past news. Canon’s 500-600 dollar play are f/2 and f/2.8 lenses *with* IS, and Nikon’s are f/1.8 *without* IS.

      Canon just needs to complete the run of IS refreshes to the 50 f/1.4 and the 85 f/1.8 and they’ll be all set. No one knows why Canon hasn’t pulled the trigger on those yet. They are years overdue.

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    • Matthew Saville

      Sounds like fair assessment, Adam, however I just fear that if Canon does ONLY 2.8 IS primes in certain focal ranges, while Sigma is doing killer 1.4’s and Tamron is apparently now doing killer 1.8’s, (not to mention Nikon’s decent 1.8’s) …Canon’s affordable lineup will be seen as incomplete and unable to compete with Tamron / Sigma for quite a decent chunk of the market that still cares about aperture brightness more than stabilization.

      TLDR; their three new-ish primes between 24mm and 35mm are nice, but they really ought to throw at least one new, affordable f/1.8 into that mix in the 20-28mm range. They also really should have refreshed the optical formula for the 50 1.8, I think that was a marketing mistake and people are catching on to Canon’s habit of gently encouraging folks to upgrade to the absolute best.

      This was the problem I had with the “L” moniker from the beginning: To maintain the prestige of a red-band lineup, they have to over-price L glass just slightly, AND they have to intentionally leave non-L lenses just a little bit more lacking than third parties and Nikon are compelled to.

      That might sound crazy or just outright false, but think of it this way: With their marketing strategy highly dependent on the prestige of “L”, could Canon EVER deliver a 50 1.8 / 1.4 that costs just $200-500, and yet delivers EQUAL optical performance to their 50 L? What about build quality and / or weather sealing? Not gonna happen. And yet Nikon is able to put a rubber gasket at the mount point on a $200 lens that, by f/2.8-4.0, is as sharp or sharper than the Canon 50 L.

      I know this sounds like blasphemy, but can anybody else see the inherent problem in creating such an eLite Label for a lineup, in the face of highly competitive third-party and other competition? Or am I just a complete Canon hateboy?

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    • adam sanford

      Matthew, you are not wrong. A few points on the 50mm market though:

      * The 50L is not meant for sharpness, I hear this again and again from those that continue to use it despite every reviewer describing the 50 Art mopping the floor with it. Some folks love the ‘magical’ way it renders and don’t give a damn about corner sharpness. (I’m not one of them, but I hear what they are saying)

      * The 50 f/1.8 was never going to get a new optical formula, just a more consistent modern build with STM technology that Yongnuo can’t legally clone like they have in three other cases (STM is has new patents behind it, the cloned lens designs’ patents had all expired). The 50 f/1.8 also needs to be good but not great on the sharpness front because…

      * …they inevitably will make a 50 f/nooneknows IS USM (f/1.4 to f/1.8, no one knows what it is yet) which will be the middle price point. I want the USM and FF corner sharpness at f/2-f/4 much more than I want f/1.4 at all, but I am in a minority. I’ve heard some people say ‘why make that lens at all if it’s f/1.8 when there’s a $150 option that is so sharp’ and I just giggle. Even an f/1.8 IS USM — particularly the USM part, the great/fast/consistent/reliable USM we’ve seen in the last few years from Canon — is worth $500 to me sight unseen.

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  5. Gavin Berry

    wifi not big deal for me!

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  6. norman tesch

    wifi, lol, i dont even take my cell phone out of the car. att and verizon are so patchy here there are days when it wont work in town much less on location.

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    • Dustin Baugh

      I love it. Now that I have it I don’t know how I did without it. Uploading as you mention is hit and miss but when you have it it’s a great social media tool to show followers “behind the scenes” of your shoots.

      And remote control and geotagging are now fully integrated into my workflow. I keep meaning to buy a remote trigger, but keep putting it off since my phone does that now.

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  7. Dalibor Tomic

    New 50L? Canon you are too late.

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  8. Dave Haynie

    Wifi, coupled with a good smartphone app, makes for a pretty handy tool. It’s good for monitoring remote cameras, remote setting and triggering, geotagging, intervalometer, etc. Not just the consumery stuff you might expect.

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    • Anthony Thurston

      I agree Dave, there are some real advantages. Its a lot like VC on wide angle primes, its not needed, but it can make things more convenient for sure.

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    • Dustin Baugh

      I’m addicted to smartphone geotagging. I hate when I forget to fire it up before shooting. I used to spend a lot of time geotagging my final edited pics, having that automatically done is amazing.

      And remote smartphone shooting is awesome for astrophotography when you don’t want any shaking. I mount my camera to my telescope so the slightest touch equals vibrations that take too long to die down. Silent shutter plus remote control means I can just sit back in a lawn chair tapping a screen to take absolutely steady photos.

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  9. adam sanford

    Boo. The 50L is fine. We need a modern workhorse all-around 50mm much more than we need a need a new bokeh/portaiture specialty tool.

    Surely, the 20+ year old EF 50mm f/1.4 USM needs to be updated first.

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