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Canon 1D X Mark II Specs Leak, Sony 28-70mm F/2 Coming? [Daily Roundup]

By Anthony Thurston on January 29th 2016

Welcome to our roundup series where we will hit on several gear news and rumor topics each day. This gives you a chance to get caught up on all of the day’s news and rumors in one place. Make sure to check back daily for the latest gear news, rumors, and announcements.

Canon EOS-1D X MK II Specs Leak

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What did I tell you?! I said the leaks regarding Canon’s next flagship EOS-1D would be coming, and oh boy have they.

Images and full specs for the upcoming Canon EOS-1D X Mark II leaked online this morning, giving us the most complete – yet still unofficial – look at Canon’s response to the D5 we have had yet.

The specs point to a 20.2MP dual pixel AF sensor, 4K video at 60fps, a USB 3.0 terminal, and a 61-point AF system with 41 cross-type sensors and sensitivity up to F8 on all AF points.

It looks like a beast of a camera, as a flagship should, though anyone who can read and do basic math will see that it appears to be outgunned by the Nikon D5‘s AF system (though, in reality, we know that AF points alone are not really an indicator of AF ability/reliability, and that does not take the dual pixel AF part of the 1D’s sensor). Full leaked specs below:

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Canon EOS-1D X Mark II Leaked Specs

  • 20.2MP CMOS sensor
  • Dynamic range improvement
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF
  • 61-point AF system, which range is expanded. 41-point cross-type. All of the distance measuring point can be selected With lighting AF point red
  • F8 even 61 points all of the distance measuring point can be selected
  • AI AF accuracy and motion tracking has improved Servo AF III + Dual DIGIC6 + processor
  • New mirror drive system that enables high-speed continuous shooting
  • Video 4K 60fps. Possible internal recording at CFast2.0T media
  • Continuous shooting up to 16 frames / sec (live view mode)
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF, enables smooth AF with 4K video
  • GPS built-in
  • USB3.0 terminal, HDMI terminal
  • Dust and water specification
  • Wi-Fi option (WFT-E8)
  • The size of 158mm x 167.6mm x 82.6mm
  • Weight 1340g

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What are your thoughts on Canon’s next flagship DSLR? How do you think it stacks up against the D5 and the previous generation flagship cameras? Leave a comment below and let us know what you think!

Sony FE 28-70mm F/2 In the Works?

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Sony still has a little bit of time left to make their promised deadline of releasing a significant number of new FE lenses, and everyone is wondering what they will be. Today, an interesting patent surfaced for a 28-70mm F/2 FE lens, which has some wondering if maybe this – or something like it – could be on the docket for Sony’s upcoming announcements.

 

Well, after some investigation, I am fairly positive that this is NOT one of the upcoming lenses. I say that, in part, because this patent was filed way back in 2014 – if it were going to be put into production I think it would have happened by now. Second, this lens would be huge, and I can’t think of anyone who would want to lug this around on their A7. It would be a brag lens, and that is about it.

That said, it does show that Sony is not shooting for mediocre; they are doing R&D into things that give you high hopes for what is coming down the pipe for the FE mount.

Announcements should be coming in the next couple of weeks, and I for one, am VERY interested to see what Sony has up their sleeves…

What are your thoughts on today’s roundup? What news/rumors did we miss? What would you like to see covered in future roundups? Leave a comment below and let us know what you think!

Anthony Thurston is a photographer based in the Salem, Oregon area specializing in Boudoir. He recently started a new project, Fiercely Boudoir to help support the growing boudoir community. Find him over on Instagram. You may also connect with him via Email.

Q&A Discussions

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  1. Sally Carpenter

    I agree with so many comments below and as a wedding and portrait photographer… I too am changing over to Nikon ($ ouch!) since Canon seems to be more interested in videography than still images…

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  2. Andy O’Dowd

    Waaaah! What about the 5d mkIV? Not that I’ve got the money to buy one :-)

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  3. Lauchlan Toal

    20.2 MP? Sounds an awful lot like a 6D sensor to me, perhaps with some tweaks.

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    • adam sanford

      Explosively unlikely. Perhaps they used the same hardware to make it, but it’s not the same component at all.
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      This grade of shooter usually prioritizes high ISO and fps *far* above the need for high MP, so I’m guessing they right-sized the pixel count to the processing power they expected to have in 2016 to make sure they could rock 14-16 fps. (This is also likely why the D5 isn’t 24 MP or higher — there’s only so much data you can move and not choke on it.)

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    • Dave Lyons

      1. Speed isn’t necessarily dependent on mp’s, a sony sensor (or most everyone else as well) might have the same mp’s but they have much more data to move since there’s so much more data coming off the sensor (especially shadow details).

      2. As far as I know fps isn’t really controlled by the processor(s), it’s based upon the limits of the sensor. For example ppl bitched about the d7200 not having higher fps but the sensor was rated at 7 fps or whatever.. either way it makes sense if you think about it as the buffer would be receiving the treated photo already.

      3. Again as far as i have heard nikons processors are much faster and efficient which is one reason why they don’t need dual processors. I’d think the drop to 20mp on both d5 and d500 is for lower noise. Loosing less than 5% volume isn’t going to make that much speed difference but the bigger pixels should make a noise level difference.

      4. If i was canon and there is no new “current” sensor then I’d go with the 6D sensor, IMO it gets the best tones from a canon.

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    • adam sanford

      Dave, I defer to the Stan Rogers and Dave Haynie’s of this forum on all technical minutiae, but as I understand it, for high fps, any one of these things can be a either bottleneck the performance or lead the manufacturer to not allow a higher fps (in no particular order):
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      1) Shutter — needs to be robust enough to take the mechanical abuse — cheaper rigs have less robust shutters.
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      2) Mirror — same as the shutter, but it’s *much* worse mechanically — more moving parts, more mass, more traverse/motion, etc. This is doubly so on a FF sensor as the mirror is huge in comparison to APS-C.
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      3) Processor — if shooting JPG, the CPU needs to turn those files quickly. It’s no surprise (at least for the Canon models I know) that the high fps rigs usually pack dual processing chips instead of having just one. Sure, you don’t *need* to do this (like you said), but it certainly helps with throughput.
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      4) Buffer — this is much more about *sustaining* burst rates than having them hit the peak rate in the first place, but if you are leaning on this shutter, this absolutely matters.
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      5) Write speeds to cards — (similar to buffer, it doesn’t limit peak capture rates so much as how long you can sustain it) some cameras are capped on their data throughput based on their format, so if the buffer isn’t the bottleneck, the card can be.
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      6) And yes, the sensor itself matters in that it defines the amount of data being passed per frame and being handled in 3,4,5 above.

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    • Dave Lyons

      I certainly can’t argue with those guys and on my end I got most of my info from Thom Hogan who definitely knows his stuff (btw~ if you’ve never read one of his “complete guides to…XXXX camera, then I’d suggest you get one.. any one of them as the info inside is staggering about these kinds of stuff).

      Yes.. I agree that all those points are correct but as I said that it all starts with the sensor and works it’s way out… What I mean is all these points and jams and bottlenecks happen down the line except the initial shutter.

      Here’s an example: when the D7200 came out some guy was crying over why only 7 fps and that there was no reason why nikon couldn’t make it go faster by boosting processors or adding another one, etc.. So someone replied back that if you look up that particular Sony sensor that it’s rated for up to 7 fps and no amount of nikon magic could make it go faster. So that’s what I mean when I say it all starts at the sensor. Sure if it’s rated for 7fps you could add a 10fps shutter, pipes, buffer and all that but that cameras still not going to shoot more than 7 fps.

      people get confused with the sensors because they think it passes along the actual picture but it doesn’t, instead it converts the pixels into numbers (which I believe helps canons get faster speeds since they in theory aren’t passing along as much data… example: i think we all can agree than canons shadow detail is “lacking” and most of those pixels will be returning a black number whereas a sony sensor would get much more complex numbers. My *guess* is that if there’s a lot of the same numbers (like black) going thru that it will go thru the process faster and since canons current DR situation there will be a much less complex formula being passed.) Ok now before you call this bs, simply check some of your images. Like this afternoon I took D700 out to shoot some fog, now most people will think the file sizes will always be the same but that’s not the case, for me today my raw files range from 12.5mb to 16.9mb. Now when I look at the images the ones with more DR and details are much bigger files than the low DR shots, which in this case isn’t shadow detail but how much sky/fog is in the scene… either way the point is the same. and since the data coming off sensor is assented and dissembled a few times before getting to actual writing it to the card stage that those short to less complex images are going to be easier & faster to move.

      So before you can even worry about the shutter, pipes, buffer and what not you need to know what your chosen sensor is capable of then finish the puzzle. You can’t build all those pieces to imaginary specs then hope to god the sensor matches it.

      I can’t remember where but there’s an article about nikon and canons processors and why canon needs two and nikon doesn’t.

      and some sweet fog and approaching sunset are calling me to actually go be a photographer for awhile ;)~

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  4. Herm Tjioe

    This leak would counter the growing assumption that Canon wouldn’t want their 4K Cinema line abridged. Well, here’s hoping it would trickle down to the 5D and 7D line soon.

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    • adam sanford

      Believe it or not, 4K on the 1DX II was 100% expected by the Canon faithful. The hot, searing, ragestorming rift in opinion is whether or not the *5D4* gets 4K.

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    • Paul Nguyen

      If you’re genuinely concerned with 4K video, pick up a Panasonic G7 and a few lenses for under $1,000 and stop worrying about when and if Canon will introduce 4K video. Whilst I completely understand the desire for 4K video, after having shot with the G7 and the GH4, I completely feel like they are better options and preferable to shooting video on DSLRs.

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    • Dave Lyons

      it was always my understanding that cameras took pictures and video cameras took videos… as it should be

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  5. adam sanford

    Lengthy 1DX II Spec list here: http://goo.gl/zauElD
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    Upsides of that list: DPAF, 14-16 fps, birders/wildlife people will change their shorts at the notion of fully functional AF with teleconverters attached, 4K @ 60 fps (without the D5’s 3 minute limit), and a reference to something that *might* be an automated onboard AFMA (which would be awesome).
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    Downsides of that list: No onboard wireless connectivity *still* (damn you, sealed metal bodies!!), nothing particularly wow-ish/spec-sheet busting other than folks who want to 2x their f/4 superwhites.
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    Overall: it’s an intelligent, predictable, incremental step forward, but nothing earthshaking unless you like photographing varmints at a distance. Let’s hope the sensor makes strides in DR and high ISO.

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    • Dave Lyons

      I would be very surprised on the DR part being much improved or else they would have put it in the 7dm2 or the 5ds ones or else those people are going to be very pissed. I don’t care much for tons of af points and i’d always assumed canons would be faster and more accurate since many more are cross types but in the real world nikons still seem to win there and i’ll take more accurate over faster any day.

      I just personally don’t see the point until they man up on their sensors and stop screwing the reds and blues up. very time i see one of my canon photos i voluntarily go sit in time out ;) people take amazing images with them but mark my words 5 years or so down the road the lack of dr and IQ are going to haunt you (if you ever want to go back and edit with all the cool new tools we’ll have then)and for those who buy one… I’m sure you’ll love it but i’d think long and hard about your canon loyalty as they just don’t seem interested in improving IQ, i know since i bought my first dslr in 2007 which was a canon 30d and since then their image quality really hasn’t moved forward and that would scare the crap outta me!

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    • Alex Petrenko

      Sad story. This is one of the reasons I moved to Nikon. It hurts, both financially and technically, but you are buying not just a new camera, you are buying more opportunities for great shots.

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    • Dave Lyons

      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again…. I want a camera that i don’t have to make excuses as to why I didn’t get the shot… or that will save my ass if I get the shot but screw it up. I just can’t realistically see why people pay more for less.

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  6. adam sanford

    +1 on Anthony’s read of the 1DX II.
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    AF systems are more than how many points you have and comparing two manufacturers’ ISO limits are nonsense until you see test shots side by side.

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