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Canon 80D To Be High Megapixel APS-C Beast? Why Are Cameras Banned From the Supreme Court? | Daily Roundup

By Anthony Thurston on September 17th 2015

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Canon 80D To Feature 28+MP Sensor?


The rumor mill is starting to flood with specs and tidbits about a rumored Canon 80D camera. The 70D, while a great mid-range APS-C offering, is a couple of years old now, and by today’s standards that means it’s about time for an update/upgrade.

Most of the specs and information coming out is rubbish, but there was one somewhat interesting bit about the sensor. According to the CR report, they are fairly certain that the 80D will feature a significantly higher megapixel count over the current 70D sensor (~20MP).

If their specs are correct, they expect the camera to feature a 28-34MP sensor, which could bring this small APS-C camera into the conversation as one of the highest megapixel cameras available right now in the SLR form factor. It seems that Canon is trying to shift the conversation about cameras back to Megapixels, something they can actually compete with Sony and the mirrorless cameras on. Let’s hope the sensor has more going for it than just the megapixels.

Some of the other specs, though these are very unlikely in my opinion, are a color LCD on the top of the camera that could be capable of displaying a histogram, voice control, and an electronic shutter. They all sound nice, but highly unlikely.

What are your thoughts on these 80D specs? Is that too many megapixels for an APS-C body?

Awesome Timelapse For Your Phone with Hobie

Have you ever had the desire to do some really fun 360 timelapse projects with your phone? Well, if you have, then this Kickstarter project may just be the one for you. The Hobie is a modified kitchen timer that will – in addition to letting you know when dinner is done – allow you to get great and smooth timelapse clips from your phone.

The campaign originally had a goal of $15,000, but support has been outstanding, and the campaign is now well over 200% funded; rather interesting given the simple nature of the product.

What are your thoughts on this Kickstarter? Also, if you want a timelapse tool that will work with your larger cameras make sure to check out our Syrp Genie Mini Giveaway!

Why Are Cameras Banned in the Supreme Court?

One of the few places remaining in the US where one can not have a camera is the Supreme Court. Some wonder why such a rule exists, and to try and – in a joking manner – get to the root of the problem, Stephen Colbert asked Justice Breyer this very question (camera stuff starts at 3:12).

His response is rather vague, but basically he wonders if people even care. I tend to agree with him; I’m not going to set my DVR and pop any popcorn to catch the next Supreme Court case. But that said, I also wonder about the need for a ban.

If noise is the concern, which at one point in history it would have been, that is a non-issue nowadays with the advent of virtually silent electronic shutters on many of the mirrorless cameras out there now. Another concern is the media taking clips out of context to bump ratings and misrepresent the proceedings – and this, ladies and gents, is probably the biggest reason for the ban in my book.

No cameras or live video means no chance for the media to take that images/footage and spin it in a way that would/could mislead the country about what happened inside the court.

I could care less really, but where do you all stand on this? Should cameras be allowed in America’s highest court?

What are your thoughts on today’s roundup? What news/rumors did we miss? What would you like to see covered in future roundups? Leave a comment below and let us know what you think!

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Anthony Thurston is a photographer based in the Salem, Oregon area specializing in Boudoir. He recently started a new project, Fiercely Boudoir to help support the growing boudoir community. Find him over on Instagram. You may also connect with him via Email.

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  2. Phil Bautista

    As far as the banning of cameras in the Supreme Court goes, I believe you’re right that they don’t want media influencing the public one way or another with regards to a case. It’s also the reason why they isolate juries from the public. I’m actually surprised that cameras are allowed in lower courts.

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  3. Danny Caro

    I like the Hobie, might go and back that kickstarter

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  4. Dave Haynie

    I don’t mind Canon having the three lines. It’s more that the cripple them here and there. It comes right down to the fact that there’s no one-size-fits-all. So to an extent, the more variations you have, the easier your next sale is going to be – the closer one of those could be to my ideal.

    Canon did “better” with features only for a long time: the 7D, the 60D, the Rebels, all had essentially the same 18Mpixel sensor. That’s a rare instance of Canon doing what I think they should do.. don’t compromise on image quality when you’re not paying that much to get that image quality.

    The crux is deciding who you’re competing with. All of the mirrorless companies know they’re competing with each other, sure, but also with Canon, Nikon, and occasionally even P&S cameras. Canon spends far too much consideration on not competing with Canon… they’ll leave out features, often software-only features, in order to differentiate models.

    I like Olympus’ approach here. The flagship OM-D E-M1 was out not quite two years ago. The mid-range OM-D E-M5 II was released with most of the E-M1 improvements: better IBIS (in fact, better than the E-M1), much higher resolution EVF, a bunch of software things. And just recently the OM-D E-M10 II came out, with a few new features. There’s no requirement that the flagship have a new thing before anyone else gets it… and, not surprisingly, there’s an update coming soon that adds most of the E-M5 II and E-M10 II features across the line. Making a better $500 or $1000 camera might occasionally make that sell in place of the $2000-$30900 camera. But not doing that winds up selling the other guys’ cameras in place of yours.

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    • adam sanford

      But that’s the thing, Dave — Canon has FOUR APS-C lines:

      XXXXD = completely stripped down for budget
      XXXD = Rebel
      XXD = Enthusiast
      7D = Prosumer with reach obsession or desire to avoid buying the longest superteles

      Interestingly enough, Nikon sees it differently. They only offer the first three above and their wildlifers angrily await a 7D2-like rig. (In fairness, the D7200 sits spec/performance wise in-between the 70D and 7D2, but you get my meaning.)

      I just don’t think a good-but-not-great APS-C rig is still a product gap in 2015. The new Rebels are solid, and if you need more, get a 7D2 or think about a FF move to the 6D.

      The resources needed to make an 80D could make something else instead, like a new astro rig, a really low MP / high ISO video rig a la the A7S II, etc. Surely, Canon can find a more needed product to offer than this…

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    • Dave Haynie

      Well, maybe. Yeah, ok, four lines if you look at Euro numbering… I was kind of limping in all Tebels together. In the past, it’s basically been the same electronics.. ok, maybe an older lowe-rez sensor and DSP in the xxxxD model, sane sensor and the good DSP in the xxxD and xD, toss in two DSPs in the 7D. Of course, build quality goes up, xxD and xD get big-boy batteries. As you said, Nikon’s not doing any pro APS these days, and folks there are unhappy. Once the 6D came out I didn’t need the xxD series, but Canon dud build a great video DSLR in the 70D… maybe an experiment. So coukd be they don’t quite know what to do in the midrange, either. And it’s actually even finer grained than that, since they typically keep older Rebels around, to sell cheap,

      I don’t know where the bottleneck is… I can’t imagine there’s a real problem with too many SKUs, sone companies manage to sell their stuff in multiple colors. If extra body development isn’t draining sensor development resources, it may just be they just have a limited vision, not a capability problem. And this is the era of trying to sell us multiple bodies in the same generation, so it’s unlikely we’ll see fewer options.

      Of course, the most profitable company in CE, Apple, has very few SKUs. And the bottom line, nothing’s yet tempted me away from my 6D at Canon, I’ve been spending on the other system instead. Canon can’t let that become a habit with too many users…

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  5. Dave Lyons

    That would be completely stupid and just one more trick to try and avoid their ever growing DR & IQ mountain they can’t seem to climb. They keep trying to lead everyone around it but how far can they actually let themselves get before the red lights start going off?

    I say give the fools all the mp’s they want but I’ll bet the DR & IQ will still be the same as my 30D had (8 years ago and hasn’t really changed since just more mp)…

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    • Dustin Baugh

      I agree but the fools make up the market. Ever seince the rumors of super megapixels started coming out people are talking about 26MP cameras as being inferior.

      It’s completely stupid but the majority bases their opinions off things like MP numbers.

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    • adam sanford

      Agree with Dustin 100%. Like it or not, MP count has got to be the absolute #1 market differentiator for the Best Buy soccer mom / hockey dad / spectacularly underinformed camera shopper. (Tilty-flippy screen or burst rate might be #2.)

      So keep in mind that crowd doesn’t exactly troll DXO. But keep in mind those same folks are the ones keeping the lights on at Canon and Nikon — Rebel & D5500 sales numbers are gargantuan.

      And provided those shoppers exist, the upcharge model to those cameras — i.e. the D7200 or 70D — needs to have a bigger MP number to lure those folks into paying more money.

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    • Dave Haynie

      Consimers like a simple metric for “better” or “worse”, and it’s awfully hard to teach them any different once they’ve accepted that. That’s sadly just megapixels in cameras, which why you have these foolish P&S units with 20Mpixel sensors at 1/2.3″and an f/3.5 lens, diffraction limited to the equivalent of 10Mpixels if you’re lucky. But any more understanding, that’s hard work for a non-geek or non-pro.

      But hey, someone’s got to buy the mass market stuff. They’ll ask “camera guys” or online, sometimes, and get something better out of it. I’m doing that more often these days than giving computer advice…

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    • Ralph Hightower

      I wouldn’t say that MP count was a major factor in my buying a DLSR. FPS was a contributing factor; the 5D Mk III had the same comparable FPS as my A-1 and F-1N with their respective motor drives. The other Canon DSLR that offered a faster FPS was the 1Dx, which I couldn’t afford.

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  6. Dalibor Tomic

    I think the megapixel war is over a long time ago. I have Fuji X-T1 and 5DmkIII and I don’t see a differences with a files or 24 inch print. More megapixel means more processing power and storage. what is a point for more megapixel and when you upload on net, you reduce image to 2 megapixel. I think this industry is like mobile phones industry, every year new camera bodies. Why? Sony has more bodies then lenses. Canon and Nikon has bodies on every six months. Why?

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  7. adam sanford

    There comes a point that Canon has too many camera bodies. I still argue that Canon doesn’t need this 70D / 80D brand-level anymore. People with $1,000-1,200 in their pocket looking for an improvement over their Rebel cameras are much more likely to opt for a deal for a 7D2 or 6D instead.

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    • Bill Bentley

      Adam, you are correct for people who had/have Rebels (like me). I went the 6D route when it went on special earlier this year.

      But for people new to the game, or somewhat invested in APS-C lenses, the 70D makes sense. The sales prove this out.

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