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5Ds/5Ds R | Canon Officially Unveils New Full Frame Megapixel Kings & 11-24mm lens

By Anthony Thurston on February 5th 2015

It seems like these are all we have been hearing about lately, and today, Canon did us all a favor and made it official, announcing the new 50MP 5DS and 5DS R. But that is not all, Canon has also unveiled the new 11-24mm F/4L.

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Canon 5DS & Canon 5DS R

50MP, yes, you are reading this correctly. Canon took a look at Nikon’s Sony-made 36MP sensor and said “Nice try, but we got this.” One look at that megapixel count is enough to make the seasoned wedding photographer cry in agony, and hardened studio photographer squeal with joy, but beyond the megapixels, what else does this new 5D have to offer?

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Official Canon 5DS Specs Highlights

  • 50.6MP Full-Frame CMOS Sensor
  • Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors
  • 3.2″ 1,040K-Dot ClearView II LCD Monitor
  • Full HD 1080p Video Recording at 30 fps
  • 61-Point High Density Reticular AF
  • 150,000-Pixel RGB+IR Metering Sensor
  • ISO 100-6400; 5.0 fps Burst Shooting
  • Anti-Flicker Compensation
  • User-Selectable Shutter Release Time Lag
  • Dual Compact Flash and SD Media Slots

*The 5DS R is exactly the same as the 5DS specs above, only without an Low-Pass filter.

The new cameras will be available around June, with the 5Ds coming in at $3,699 and the 5Ds R $200 more at $3,899 (Gotta love how getting a camera WITHOUT a feature costs you more). If you are interested, you can pre-order the 5Ds and 5Ds R over on B&H.

Canon 11-24mm F/4L

So, 11mm. That makes this one of (I don’t feel like checking), if not the, widest full frame (non-fisheye) lenses available today. It is pretty obvious that the F/4 will turn some away, but the ability to shoot at 11mm will be a huge advantage for others.

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Canon 11-24mm F/4L Specs

  • EF Mount L-Series Lens/Full-Frame Format
  • Constant f/4 Maximum Aperture
  • Super UD, UD, and 4 Aspherical Elements
  • SWC, Air Sphere, and Fluorine Coatings
  • Ring-Type USM Autofocus Motor
  • Internal Focus; Full-Time Manual Focus
  • Weather-Resistant Design
  • Rounded 9-Blade Diaphragm

The lens is expected to begin shipping sometime near the end of February for $2,999. If you are interested, you can pre-order your copy now over at B&H.

So what do you think about these new announcements from Canon? Do you see yourself adding any of these new products to your growing kit? Leave a comment below and let us know!

Anthony Thurston is a photographer based in the Salem, Oregon area specializing in Boudoir. He recently started a new project, Fiercely Boudoir to help support the growing boudoir community. Find him over on Instagram. You may also connect with him via Email.

Q&A Discussions

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  1. Graham Curran

    In comparison with the cost of the camera larger faster storage cards are a minor inconvenience. Handling the larger files in post processing though will require both an upgrade in RAM and processor for my PC. And while I have plenty of HDD space I’d probably want to make sure my read/write bus speed was as fast as possible.

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  2. Bogdan Roman

    go Canon go! megapixel race is on :))

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  3. Tom Marvel

    Even though I’m a Canon shooter (5d3, 6d, 7d & assorted Rebels w/ all the various lenses and accouterments to match) I’ve been patiently saving my nickels so I can move up to a Pentax 645Z.
    (169,929 nickels to be exact based on the current body only price at B&H)

    A serious question:
    Financial considerations aside….
    Would you continue to aspire to the Pentax?
    I know 170K nickels is only “key money”
    I’ll have to gather up a few lenses as well
    OR
    Would you go with the new 50MP 5d3?
    Of course no additional expense for lenses

    Would the Image Quality of the Pentax 645Z w/ Sony sensor override any logical reason to stay with a 50MP Canon?

    Thanks in advance

    PS: I have too much Canon glass to dump it all and switch to Nikon

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    • Stephen Velasquez

      This is a no brainer. Get that medium format Canon. All you need is the best of the best lenses. We talking 24-70 2.8/zeisses/sigma’s art. I don’t think does old L lenses could even squeeze out 30 mix from that 50 mix cmos sensor. I am happy with my D800 and storage shouldn’t be a problem.

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  4. Stephen Velasquez

    This is aimed for Enthusiast and Pro’s who make really large prints. My biggest print was a 80×60 and it was done on a D3100 and it was ok for that size but you could see the flaws but the people loved the moment captured with it. On my computer you can’t tell the D600/D800 apart. It is only when I print above 40×80 I could tell the difference marginally. Don’t get overhyped for the Megapixel feature that you won’t put to use. If you don’t make Large Mega Prints you don’t need Large Mega Pixels.

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  5. carl rug

    Te camera hast even came out and people are already saying this camera will be terrible and stuff, but no this is an interesting camera and remember this is just an alternative option, the big thing is when the 5d mark iv comes out! i expect this year too.

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    • Chuck Eggen

      True enough Carl.

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    • Matthew Saville

      Carl, this is mainly because Canon came right out and said it in their press release: This camera will 1.) offer no improvement in dynamic range compared to the 5D mk3, and will 2.) offer the high ISO performance of a 7D mk2.

      I too hate counting chickens before they hatch, but Canon made it pretty hard for us not to at this point.

      You’re right though, this is a specialty camera aimed at a specific niche market. The 5D mk4 will be the proof in the pudding, hopefully.

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  6. Amanda Jehle

    My first reaction was “Ooooh, maybe I can get a 5D3 at a better price, now.” The 50MP doesn’t really excite me all that much…

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    • aaron febbo

      haha same here Amanda !

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    • Matthew Saville

      Amanda, in all honesty I strongly suspect that a camera like this, one so un-desirable to anyone who isn’t obsessed with megapixels, may even cause the price (used) of the 5D mk3 to go UP! So, if you’re thinking of getting one, watch the next few months very carefully and pounce on a deal if you see prices begin to rise.

      =Matt=

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    • Ben Perrin

      Come on now Matthew… 5d3 prices going up? With the 5d4 being announced within the next 8 months the 5d3 is only going to come down in price.

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    • Sean Goebel

      5D3 used prices may very well go up… It’s happened before when other very undesirable cameras came out. For example, I remember the 40D used prices skyrocketing when the 50D came out.

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  7. Zac Peetsma

    I feel like most people are placing this camera in the wrong category. I can see it being wonderful in the high fashion / studio / medium format world.

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    • John Cavan

      Hmm… a similar consideration was also made around the D800 and there’s an element of truth to that, but photographers already invested in MF bodies and glass are unlikely to switch. It may form an entry point for up-and-coming shooters in that industry, but even with that it’s not exactly cheap once you start adding in the glass.

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    • John Cavan

      I don’t think we’ve seen the ceiling on the megapixel wars yet, but I have to wonder if Canon was too focused on trying to surpass Nikon and Sony in this area. For most purposes, that 50mp is probably going to get shrunk and cropped, which is handy as any D800 owner can tell you, but that it’s capped at ISO6400 indicates that it may be a bit noisy and we already know where they are on the DR front.

      So, I can’t help but feel that they would have been better off being more about trying to beat Nikon/Sony on the high ISO and dynamic range front. If they had of delivered a 24 mp camera that thumped on those areas, people would be hailing it as a massive winner.

      In any event, I’ll be curious to see some real examples soon. People considering an upgrade may want also consider their computers… 36 mp is a fair amount of system stress as it is, the 50 mp is big jump. Lots of RAM, and patience, is going to be your friend.

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  8. Tyler Friesen

    Sad there are no changes to DR. No upgrades for me. In fact I may jump ship all together now, I was eagerly awaiting a smart move by them to catch up on sensor tech. Yes I know there are crazy MP’s here but how many of us need to blow up our images for the sides of buildings! I guess ill have to wait for actual reviews before I abandon them all together. I had high hopes here.

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    • Barry Tobin

      I must have missed the international decree that henceforth all cameras will be judged on dynamic range alone.

      I have two good friends who both shoot Nikon (D610 & D750) and while both cameras record great images I have yet to see anything from either that makes me want to “jump ship”. I’m also still waiting to see this vastly superior measured performance actually manifest as an unequivocal slam dunk in real world photographs? So far what I see is an increasing number of “hyper-real” looking landscape shots featuring “do it because I can” shadow lifts to the point that they begin to look unnatural and over processed. Don’t get me wrong – I take nothing away from how impressive it is that these Sony sensors can perform these feats at base ISO’s… I merely question 1) what this means as the art component of photography loses ground against technical performance and 2) the relevance of any of this outside of this one specific use scenario (high contrast landscapes) that cannot be covered by non-Sony sensors.

      Why not read Matthew Saville’s great review contributions on the Canon 7d Mark II review series on this site – one I’ve really enjoyed not only for being unbiased & based around real world, hands on shooting experiences – but also for containing several interesting insights from a serious landscape shooter as to the state of his art.

      But I guess in these days of weighted sensor scores dictated from on high by self appointed “authorities”, review sites that focus excessively on shooting test charts in dark rooms and 1001 “money see monkey do” repeat forum posts from people who neither need nor probably even understand the actual implications of why anyone would ever have to do a 5EV exposure lift (like maybe these shot a scene with their lens cap attached :-)) I guess we’ll continue to see endless discussions about (yawn) dynamic range and how great Sony sensors are. Hey if you own a Nikon, Sony or just wanna dump your Canon cause it’s ruining your life I got nuthin’ but love fo’ ya… good for you. But really, all this talk basically suggesting that all Canon camera’s are inherently inferior based on this one, single… largely irrelevant parameter is just a joke.

      Back on this camera – it’s a not a general purpose “walk around” do-it-all DSLR… making comparisons to other camera’s intended to cover all bases is not relevant… but maybe it’s just a bit of sour grapes… Nikon has had all the bragging rights based on trophy numbers lately, funny how other brands trophy numbers are suddenly reason for ridicule and derision.

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    • Chuck Eggen

      Barry, no sour grapes here. I think it’s a huge compliment that Canon copied Nikon other than upping the MP count. But, it is funny how all the Nikon bashers (D800, files to large, have to upgrade computer, why do you need so many MP, just a gimmick… and the list goes on) are now sore because Nikon shooters are resurrecting their comments. As far as dynamic range, you are correct in that most may not see the difference but the lack there of indicates no real sensor improvement from Canon. Stick to your guns though as I’m sure you are heavily invested in Canon lenses and it wouldn’t make sense to switch. Wishing you the best and happy shooting. Creativity trumps equipment anyway. Equipment just makes it easier, not better.

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    • Chuck Eggen

      Tyler, just stand by. The 5DMkIV may be the camera you are waiting for. I think the 5Ds/r is just a niche camera for those that can use the boost in MP.

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    • Ben Perrin

      Although the dynamic range of the 5Ds/r has not changed in traditional terms several sources are saying that the low iso noise is much less and that the sensor is actual running at a cooler temperature. Thus, the shadows are able to gain more detail. What irritates me is people who aren’t even going to buy the camera are talking about the dynamic range of the camera when there’s been no RAW testing so far. I wish people would reserve their comments for when the camera comes out. Also, look at the example files, they look amazing to me.

      Second there are a number of improvements that don’t have to do with the sensor. Remember a camera is not just a sensor like some people seem to say. I’m not bashing Nikon, Sony or whoever else, I’m just saying that people are talking garbage, insinuating that you can’t take good photos without an A7r II or a d810. Those same people will then source Ansel Adams as a source of inspiration.

      We all need to realise that these modern day cameras can take amazing pictures and the weak point is usually us. Yes, it certainly helps to have a tool which is going to aid you more than most but at the end of the day we are the ones that create the images. In terms of people crying sour grapes over file size of the d800 I can honestly say I was not one of them. I really don’t understand when people purchase a $4000+ camera and complain about things like disk space (it’s so cheap these days) or a $9.95 subscription per month. People are weird though. We want the things we’ve invested in to be the best. Fair enough I suppose but it all goes way too far.

      Anyway sorry for the rant. Wishing you all the best of luck with your future photographic adventures. I agree with you Chuck, “Creativity trumps equipment anyway. Equipment just makes it easier, not better”.

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    • Matthew Saville

      Barry, I can definitely feel for anyone who is tired of the dynamic range complaints about Canon. It’s getting old, and for anyone who simply doesn’t need a bazillion stops of DR, there’s really very little else stopping any of the current Canon bodies from being pretty awesome.

      However, the difference between Canon and other sensors goes a bit deeper than just DR. I know that we probably won’t exactly agree on the validity or usefulness of DXO’s sensor scores, but in my opinion as someone who tests lots of different cameras, it does seem that the DXO lab numbers are at least relatively similar to real-world shortcomings. And really, the only thing Canon CAN do, according to DXO, is high ISO.

      In other words, simply put, yes I could certainly put a 5DsR to good use, as a commercial photographer or even as a landscape photographer. However, if given the choice between 50 MP and ~12 stops of DR, or 24-36 MP and ~15 stops of DR, …I’d go with the latter every time.

      To Canon’s credit, I will say this: As an astro-landscape photographer myself, the 6D is still a champion. Not only does it have some of the most amazing high ISO performance around, it also has better DR at those higher ISO’s compared to Nikons. So clearly, there is room for praise in different areas, and Canon is still doing certain things right.

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    • Tyler Friesen

      Hahaha calm down Barry unless you created or own large shares in Canon just simmer. It’s not a big deal, I just prefer to have a more useable and workable file that comes from the higher dynamic range from a lot of other manufacturers. Clearly what your not understanding is canon is using very old tech for their sensors. I love the way the canon operates but it’s getting old having inferior files to other manufacturers. With all that said I don’t really care about most of that as I shoot more film then anything these days. Matthew, your awesome haha.

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    • Matthew Saville

      @ Ben Perrin, I would be the foremost leader of chanting “here’s to hoping that Canon has created a game-changing sensor!!!” …if it hadn’t been for Canon’s own Chuck Westfall stating that the high ISO performance is akin to the 7D mk2, and the dynamic range is akin to the 5D 3.

      So if there was ever a time to safely count chickens before they hatch, this would be it.

      I will say however, you bring up a good point. It will be interesting to see what the new sensor has to offer, especially with regards to the improvements that the 7D mk2 has displayed, or that thing you mentioned about running at cooler temperatures. I’d sacrifice a stop of DR if it meant that each capable stop had even better overall IQ.

      And with what I said about the 6D’s high ISO DR being superior to most / all Nikons, I’d say the 5Ds/R could still be on the right track. For some / many folks, though not all.

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    • Barry Tobin

      Hey guys – some really good discussion points here and I can kinda see why it looked like I was going postal on this… which I wasn’t… :-) And sorry Tyler I really wasn’t directing this at you.

      Matthew – the only “tired” part of it is that a discussion that should be way more nuanced and intelligently debated manifests as an unqualified repetition of a measurement that has far less bearing in the real world than it’s made out to. If I had a dollar for every time I read about “better than Canon DR” without the slightest disclaimer (that this only applies up until ISO 800 or thereabouts) I’d probably buy one of these new 5d’s.

      I’d more readily subscribe to your comments in your 7d Mark ii review… You said – “DXOmark clocks the 7D MarkII’s dynamic range at the “usual” 11.8 EVs… but that’s on paper. In the real world, I’m happy to report that the 7D Mark II‘s dynamic range will leave nothing to be desired for most photographers.” And later on (again referring to Canon DR)… ” how bad is it, really? Not that bad, not for most photographers. You have to be pretty crazy and envelope-pushing in order to see a real difference.” Well said to you sir… and that was my whole point in the first place – in the real world, away from labs and test charts what does the gap actually matter for most of us?

      As for DxO scores – I don’t dispute them at all – in fact they make for interesting and/or amusing reading as the case may be – for example how about a Nikon D3300 getting an equal sensor score to a Canon 1Dx… who knew all those pros were doing it wrong when what they really needed all along was a $500 crop sensor body from Nikon?! Given DxO Mark’s apparent obsession with DR – that’s the equivalent of weighting all vehicle testing scores towards fuel economy alone and then concluding that a Honda Fit is an equal or better car than a Lamborghini Aventador based on this one single assessment criteria. Who could ever take that seriously?

      Moving on… no Chuck I’m not some sad Canon fanboy “trapped” in the Canon system by virtue of owning a stack of high priced glass… but I do find it amusing that this is often mentioned in terms of derision when discussing Canon users – some sort of Freudian glass envy perhaps? :-)

      Unbelievable as it may seem I stick with Canon because I like using their cameras and they get me what I want in terms of image creation and – despite constant suggestions otherwise – they continue to innovate in ways that matter… like dual pixel AF or the anti flicker mode being introduced into newer models – or for that matter bringing the first 50MP 35mm sensor camera to market?

      So – no more rants… Both Canon and Nikon bring alot to the table and both can help you get great images – and I hardly think that Canon can do no wrong either… but whatever. At least Chuck and I sing from the same choir book on his last point – “Creativity trumps equipment anyway. Equipment just makes it easier, not better”. Wise words :-)

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    • Matthew Saville

      Thank you, Barry, for responding.

      I would definitely stand by what I said in the Canon 7D mk2 review- for most photographers, this is a non-issue.

      For many studio, editorial, or commercial types of photographers where they can control all their lighting and it would be considered a production failure if dynamic range exceeded ~10 stops in the first place, …The 5Ds/R will be considered the bees’ knees. For landscape photographers who aren’t obsessed with the crazy HDR look, or who don’t mind bracketing an extra frame or two every now and then, the 5Ds/R will deliver jaw-dropping gallery prints.

      Personally, of course, I am one of those envelope-pushers, and I will take ever last stop (or ANYTHING, not just DR) that I can get… Considering the high ISO noise levels and the high ISO dynamic range, I’d buy a Canon 6D or 7D mk2 in a heartbeat if I had the cash for two systems. But for the majority of what I do, I “need” Nikon…

      My main issue, still, is simply that it’s almost as if Canon is not only ignoring “the problem”, but being stubborn and vindictive about it from a corporate / PR standpoint. Your last quote from Chuck speaks two different messages to me. First, of course he’s entirely right, nothing can help you if you’re not creative and visionary. However second, it just smells like an excuse. An excuse of Kodak era proportions? Probably not.

      So, I hate to say it but, even though 90% of photographers won’t need it, and even though it may only cause Canon shooters to start editing their images in garish over-processed HDR-esque fashion, …Canon does need to do something about certain aspects of their in-house sensor design. They’re doing many things right, and better than others in some respects, but they’re certainly not king of the hill anymore, like they were in the days of the 20D and 1Ds.

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  9. Kyle Stauffer

    “One look at that megapixel count is enough to make the seasoned wedding photographer cry tears of joy, and hardened studio photographer squeal”

    My thoughts were in reverse.

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  10. Cody Edger

    I’m just hoping this means the sale price for the 6D will drop and I can get another for a second body :D

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  11. Masrur Mahmood

    I have to admit that I’m a bit skeptical about the announcement. I’ve been a long time Canon fan and I do own quite a bit of Canon gear. I’m

    Comparing spec by spec, here are skepticisms:
    1) I feel that the native ISO range of 6400 is low for a camera that is worth almost $4000. But then again, due to the high MP count it probably isn’t economically viable for Canon to design a sensor >6400 native ISO with this high MP count.
    2) Dynamic range is a big question mark. If I have to upgrade from a 70D to a full frame, needs to be a very big improvement there. Nikon still rules in this category still and we have to wait and see.
    3) The 1.3x and 1.6x crop mode seems like a cool feature but I have yet to see some real practical implications in wedding photography for this. I feel that this is more of a feature that will reduce file size and help in easier post processing.
    4) Now about the lens: 11-24mm f/4, it is way way too expensive. Unless you are a landscape photographer, I don’t see a need for this. The price of this lens should be about $2K and not $3K.
    5) I think most people who wants to upgrade will probably upgrade to 5DS R and not 5DS. With only a $200 difference, I don’t see a need for a second model. I feel most people are going to buy the 5DS R model.

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    • Matthew Saville

      2.) Fortunately, or unfortunately, dynamic range shouldn’t be a question mark because Canon quietly mentioned this in their press release: It’ll have the same DR as the 5D mk3.

      3.) I feel quite the opposite as a wedding photographer, actually. At least on the Nikon side of things, my Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR has turned into a 24-180mm zoom, that is, whenever I’m OK with the loss of shallow DOF for misc. candid shooting. I’ll probably add a Sigma 150 2.8 Macro to my bag to combat this issue, but I certainly am done lugging a 70-200 2.8 around to weddings, woohoo!

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  12. aaron febbo

    Keep the 50MP and give me better dynamic range and ISO performance then ill be happy. Until then ill be wishing I had a Nikon !

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  13. Chuck Eggen

    Congratulations Canon. You finally caught up to Nikon in the MP war. Now to see if the DR will hold up since this camera is probably more suited to Landscape and Studio Portrait shooting. I can see printing huge Landscapes but for 99% of the potential users, how large are your Portrait prints going to be. Don’t get me wrong, I love my D810 but honestly, I’ve yet to print anything above 40″s. My guess is many will buy this just to say they own a 50MP camera. If Canon is still planning the release of the 5dMkIV it was a great strategy to release this 50MP monster first. Consumers will react with the “I gotta have it” and then have buyers remorse later when the camera they need is released. Some will buy both and that Sir is marketing. Hats off to their strategy. It will be fun to go back to older threads to see all the Nikon bashing over 36MP. I’ll be able to cut and paste comments with nothing but a change from Nikon to Canon.

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    • Stan Rogers

      Chuck, I’d take it (the 50MP, that is; I can’t deal with Canon ergonomics) just for the ability to retouch convincingly. I’ve been in the digital game since 2MP was good, and even if 2MP is your destination size, fixing what needs fixing at a much higher rez means that it doesn’t look like it’s been fixed at the lower resolution. (If you retouch at low rez, it never really looks fully convincing, just “good enough”.) And when the prints get biggish (16×20, or even 13×19 with the right printer–one that can handle 450-ish ppi gracefully–on the right paper), there is a visible difference. We haven’t quite gotten to ridiculous yet; we’re just getting close.

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  14. Thorsten Ott

    Just read the DPReview first impression article, and I quote them:

    “Accordingly, Canon tells us that at a pixel level, noise levels should be very similar to the EOS 7D Mark II and slightly better than what we’d expect from a 5D Mark II (note: not a 5D Mark III).”

    I shoot a lot of studio product work, and all the images get resized to 1024px for e-commerce websites. The client also receives 24MP tif’s for print use. Haven’t had any complaints about too few megapixels…..but then I didn’t hear complaints with 12MP or 16MP either.

    I really have to wonder what Canon was thinking with 50MP and “5DMK3 dynamic range and noise levels should be very similar to the EOS 7D Mark II and slightly better than what we’d expect from a 5D Mark II”…… sigh.

    16 or 20 stops of dynamic range @ 24MP or 36MP would have impressed the hell out of me. Would have been a Godsend for shooting outdoor fashion catalogs, outdoor weddings, outdoor portraits, landscapes…well, all outdoor photography for that matter.

    And finally, has anyone ever retouched a 24MP studio product image at 100% screen size. Even with careful cleaning I still see plenty of dust & product blemishes to fix. 50MP should be a real pleasure to retouch, haha.

    To take advantage of the 50MP sensors one probably needs Canon L prime lenses or Zeiss glass…. another added expense.

    A “Like New” used D810 on Amazon for $2500 or new for $3000 sounds like a much better deal to me. For weddings a D750 is a better option.

    I guess we will have to wait for what the 5DMK4 will bring to the table in 6 months.

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    • Dave Haynie

      You’re not getting the same noise levels out of a same-generation sensor at 50MP as you do at 22MP. Just not happening.

      They’re likening it to the 7D mk II primarily because the pixel pitch is nearly the same… this is going to give you about 19MP when cropped to Canon’s APS-C frame. For me, the advantage of a DSLR has been large pixels, not more of them. Others will certainly value having more. It’s inherently a trade off, and at the same technology node, it’s always going to be a trade-off. Same reason Sony makes three versions of the A7.

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  15. Kevin Cucci

    Ok, now that we have these out of the way. Let’s start talking about the 5D mark IV. That’s the only thing that is going to peak my interest this entire year. Unless Sigma announces a 85 ART. Then it shall be 2 things.

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  16. Kristian Hollund

    The finish and quality on e.g. Sigma’s Art lenses look so much better than the Canon lenses now, they really should do something about that.

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  17. Keegan Carroll

    The new 5d sounds amazing! just need more file space & cards. The new lens couldn’t come at a better time, just started shooting architectural photography and is perfect!! Really keen to see images that come out of both.

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  18. James Rogen

    wow back when 50mp cameras were limited to only medium format i had the tough decision of sending my children to college or buying a camera. Now even my kids can afford a 50mp camera with their minimum wage jobs!

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  19. Gurmit Saini

    again may be useful for some, but looking Nikon D800 and D810, I don’t see the necessity of 50mp and not to mention the size of files and extra storage required. Matthew I think you are right it is just a money making scheme.

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  20. Basit Zargar

    great

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  21. Braden Storrs

    According to Canon it has not removed the low-pass filter, it just uses something else to cancel it out. Not sure ow that works. On their end though it allows them to use the same body on both cameras. Where if they just removed the filter they would have had to adjust the body on the 5DS R to fit. Saves on manufacturing that way.

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    • Matthew Saville

      This is what the Nikon D800 and D800e did, yes.

      Strange that Nikon has already moved on from this concept in the D810, and done an actual zero AA filter setup. I wonder why Canon decided to still produce the two separate models, even though it’s been almost a whole year since the D810 came out.

      I guess they wanted to make more money?

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    • Stephen Jennings

      Or more likely the camera was in development for so long that the rest of the industry moved on haha! =P

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  22. Geoffrey Van Meirvenne

    The viewfinder will show lines or crop the image when going into the 1.3/1.6 crop mode. At least that will help to “crop” effectively in camera and avoid cropping in post.

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  23. Kiel MacDonald

    Sorry to be a neophyte but is the 5Ds/5Ds-R going to be different than the 5D mark iv ? Or is the 5Ds what the 5D mark iv rumors were about? Thanks for any clarification. I just really hoped the next 5D mark iv would have more than 7fps.

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    • Ben Perrin

      Mark 4 is supposedly going to be announced around August and will be higher fps and better video. Canon is splitting their lines to suit different interest groups.

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    • Ben Perrin

      Looks good at first glance. I’m most likely getting one but I’ll have to read up on it more. At least Canon are trying to compete again.

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    • Matthew Saville

      Yes, in their press release Canon has clearly stated that this new camera is “along side” the 5D mk3, and we can infer from this that a 5D mk4 is still coming.

      I wouldn’t expect it to pass 7 FPS, though, not if they’re going to (likely) cram more than 22 megapixels in there. Who knows though, they put 10 FPS in the 7D mk2 right? Personally though I wouldn’t hold my breath for more than 7-8 FPS in the 5D mk4.

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    • Matthew Saville

      And Ben, considering the tidbit about the dynamic range being the same as the 5D mk3, and the high ISO performance being a step down, (they say it is alike the 7D mk2, not the 5D 3 nor the 6D) …I don’t think I’d call this “trying to compete again”. At best, I’d call this “trying to impress everyone again with trophy numbers”

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    • Ben Perrin

      Well there’s more to life than dynamic range. Not saying I wouldn’t love more. I’m just saying that there are other extra features included which are going to make me very happy. Others will bitch and moan like usual of course.

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    • Aleksander Michaud

      Matthew Saville is an incredibly impressive Nikon Fanboy troll. Truly impressive how much time he takes out of his day to make sure everyone knows that Nikon and Canon are doing different things.

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    • Stephen Jennings

      Nikon fanboy?

      Canon releases a camera that appears to be an attempt to compete with the Nikon d810 and Sony A7R that is more expensive — repeat — more expensive — than either that will likely have much lower DR, lower IQ, high noise at relatively low ISO, all at a gigantic resolution that will require the best glass. It seems that Canon is at least 3 years or more behind in their development.

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    • Aleksander Michaud

      So don’t buy it? Stick with Nikon or Sony? Just a few ideas. I for one think I’m going to try and pick this up. I like the resolution, Canon DR has been good enough for me in studio usage, and I like their glass. Sure there are short comings, but you don’t see me trolling every single Nikon/Sony announcement.

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    • Dave Haynie

      Canon’s “pulling a Sony” here… these are essentially 50MP versions of todays 5D mk III, with some adjustments (lack of video options) required by the sensor. Sony, of course, sells three (well, now four) versions of the Alpha 7.

      I think this is all a bid to sell more bodies. Up until now, the extra body is nice to save a lens change, but it’s not like the film days when you had different film in each body. Now, well, it’s getting more like the film days… maybe you want super high MP for some outdoor shots, you need less noise indoor, maybe another for superior video.

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  24. Eric Sharpe

    The upgrade cost would be astronomical for me. I’d have to purchase a lot more storage, cards, and a brand new computer. I guess I’ll start playing scratch offs tomorrow.

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  25. Scottie Nguyen

    Depends if Canon uses a sony sensor with better dynamic range. If not another canon dissappointment.

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    • Stephen Jennings

      According to Canon this sensor was developed in-house and no relationship with Sony exist. Sony has it’s own 50mp+ sensor being developed that might be shared with Nikon.

      The thing I really, really don’t get about this new 50mp sensor.. is why did Canon jump from 24 to 50? I mean the 36mp from Sony and Nikon make for some astounding prints which alone makes it an ideal size for, say, wedding and portraits where they are often printed. Canon really doesn’t have any offerings at that size.. but now they have a 50mp sensor. But you wouldn’t shoot a wedding or portraits with a medium format camera, why would you with a 5Ds? Because to get the actual value, the true purpose of such a camera … would be utterly massive prints without suffering unsampling in the printing process.

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    • Braden Storrs

      The DR is the same as the 5D Mark III. Not bad really, but not quite as nice as some other cameras now. More then workable with a little attention to your light.

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    • Matthew Saville

      Scottie, according to the “sneak peek” that some folks were given at an official press briefing, Canon has clearly stated that this camera has the same DR as the 5D mk3.

      Whoops. I guess we can at least thank them for sparing us the ~4 months of wondering. Way to proudly continue to rock the 2007 IQ, Canon.

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    • Nick Viton

      Perhaps the 5D s/R is released to boost sales of the 5D mk3…

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    • Matthew Saville

      Nick, whether or not you’re joking I don’t know, but in reality this probably will indeed bump up the used price of a 5D mk3 by a hundred bucks or three. :-(

      =Matt=

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    • Dave Haynie

      The cost of storing 50MP photos today is less than the cost of storing the same number of 36MP photos when the Sony sensor came out. Plus, everyone’s been beating poor Canon up about their lack of pixel count, versus all those guys using the Sony sensors. So this does, indeed, fix that problem.

      Of course, I’m a video and panorama guy, which means the computer system I threw out a year and a half ago would handle 50MP stills just dandy. I would think anyone on a budget would not be buying this in the first place, but with 64GB SD cards at $25 and 5TB external drives at $150, I don’t think support of this kind of camera is out of the budget of anyone who’d seriously need this kind of camera.

      Personally, I’m happy enough with 20Mpixel and the occasional 40-80 image stitch.

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    • Stephen Jennings

      Well.. just to clarify, you wouldn’t use a 64gb sd card that cost $25 with this camera. Unless you wanted to wait a few seconds after each photograph. You’ll need at a minimum 95mb/s write, though at 50mp you’d probably want upwards to 120+mb/s. I use 125mb/s CF cards and 95mb/s SD cards in my d800, much, much more expensive than $25 ;)

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  26. Andrew Van Arb

    I need this in my life.

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  27. Stephen Jennings

    I’m really interested to see this camera put up against the D810. I admit, I’m a teeny tiny bit jealous of the 50mp, though my hard drives and mac are glad it’s not a Nikon.

    The 11-24mm lens is impressive, the price tag not so much.

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    • Matthew Saville

      Stephen, according to DPR Canon has actually stated that this camera has the same DR as the 5D 3. So, it’s a fail.

      If you’re jealous of 50 MP or 11mm, take two or three overlapping vertical shots on a D810 at 16mm and call it a day. ;-)

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