New Canon 7D Replacement Specs, 90% Confidence

Gear & App Rumors August 22nd 2014 12:55 PM 21 Comments

Take everything you have heard about the Canon 7D Replacement specs and throw them out the window. According to a new rumor report from Canon Rumors, the author is 90% sure that he has the real Canon 7D replacement specs and they are quite different from what has previously been reported.

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New Canon EOS 7D Replacement Specifications

  • Kit lenses: 18-135 IS STM and 15-85 IS STM
  • CF, UDMA mode 7 + SD, UHS-I
  • No GPS or WiFi
  • Fixed LCD, with no touch function.
  • 20.2MP “Fine Detail” CMOS  Sensor
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF
  • Dual DIGIC 6 Processors
  • 65 AF points “All Cross-type”. Dual cross on the center point.
  • 10fps
  • ISO 100-16000, ISO Boost mode 25600 and 51200
  • 1080p/720p both get 60fps
  • Servo AF for video shooting.
  • Anti-flicker mode, eliminates flickers under flickering lights
  • Spot metering size 1.8%
  • Built-in flash with radio trigger function.
  • Mic and headphones connectors
  • Can sync time between 7D II cameras.
  • Lens electronic MF
  • About 100% coverage OVF

As you can see, these are pretty different from what we were hearing before (which, let’s be honest, was rather unbelievable). The author of the post over at CR says he is 90% sure of these new specs, and if I am honest, these seem much more realistic to me than the previously reported specs.

20MP sensor is great, 60FPS at 1080 is awesome, 10fps is wonderful, 65 cross type AF points is insane. If these turn out to be legit, this will most likely be my next DSLR purchase. I have been living in no man’s land lately between review gear for stills and using my EOS-M cameras for video. These specs make my mouth water…

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What are your thoughts on these new specs? Do they seem more realistic to you than the old ones? Leave a comment below!

[via Canon Rumors]

 

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21 Comments

  1. adam sanford

    I’m generally not buying it. Much of what is listed is expected, but some bits are a bit out there.

    * I’m not a high megapixel proponent, but 5+ years going by and the replacement only packing 2 more MP makes little sense. I wasn’t expecting a 30+ MP sort of rig, but we all were expecting a new sensor — the 20.2 number matches the 70D, which might imply they are recycling sensors with their flagship crop brand. Not buying that at all.

    * A pop-up flash with radio trigger… **yet it can’t do Wifi**? If the top is plastic, antennae shouldn’t be a problem. Again, not buying it.

    * I will admit that more AF points than the 5D3/1DX is strangely plausible. There were many rumors that the 1Dx / 5D3 AF setup would be ported to the 7D2, but you can’t just dump a FF autofocus system into a crop FOV, so it’s possible Canon tried something different there.

    Or this is all smoke and mirrors. Canon could have leaked false specs. They seem to be tightening control over bigger releases. Lately, CR has rarely nailed a CR3 more than a week before release.

    • Anthony Thurston

      True, but would you at least agree that these are loads more realistic than the previously rumored specs?

    • adam sanford

      Anthony: aaaaaabsolutely. 12 FPS + 24 MP + 1DX build (minus the grip) is a sports/wildlife shooters dream, and it struck me as **too close to 1DX** to be true. Canon wants crop to be ever-so-slightly-*less*-effective than a ‘perfect 1.6x’ teleconverter, otherwise most people would choose a (just riffing here) a 7D2 + 400 prime instead of a 1DX + 600 prime.

      I have no intention of starting a crop vs. FF debate (full disclosure, I am a 5D3 owner who has little interest in high FPS and/or long-reach applications), but I am trying to convey a value proposition of crop. If 7D2 + 400 prime is 90% as good* as a 1DX + 600 prime, some folks will choose it for weight and (especially) cost reasons. If it’s 95% as good (no idea if that’s possible), pros will migrate back to crop as well. So I think Canon will dial in the 7D2 to be good but not that good for this very reason.

      (* = no way to quantify IQ like this, I know, but I think you folks know what I mean #notstartingacropversusffthreadimjustsayin)

    • Liam Murphy

      CROP V FULL WAR IS ON!!!! okay I just had to. I hear you though, It’s also why I feel like they don’t have a no frills camera with a full frame sensor. People would just migrate to that instead of buying things they don’t need like GPS, WIFI, Touch Screens.

    • adam sanford

      The 6D is about as close as your are going to get to your no frills FF camera. It’s not a stripped SLR by any stretch, but they nerfed it pretty hard to keep the 5D3 a more preferable options.

      The big debate on the CR forums (for a while) was whether a loaded-for-war crop body could ever cost more than a relatively contemporary FF rig. There seems to be two camps on this — the group that insists that a crop will never cost more than a FF rig (pegging the 7D2 body around $1500) and those that hope this is the ‘Crop 1DX’ workhorse they’ve been hoping for for field sports, wildlife and birding (which would command easily north of $2k).

      It all depends on the features they offer in the 7D2. If it’s a modest AF upgrade, 8-10 fps, and a slight sensor bump –> $1500. But if they go big: 10-12 fps, something like the 1DX/5D3 AF system, a much tougher build, high MP sensor, etc. it could be worth up to $2500 to some folks, not kidding.

    • Sada Domonkos

      I think focus systems and FF or crop FOV is nothing to do with each outher as for example take the 50D focus screen and the 5D MKII focus screen all the same…
      Just on FF it is bad because all the focus dots are on the center of the fov and in a crop sensor they are more likely to near to the 1/3 part of the screen left and right side too.

      So mho it is really thinkable that canon gives 1D X like focus system to 7D II ;)

  2. Mads Helmer Petersen

    That´s what we have been waiting for – think it a good mach for my 6D. Only thing I think is missing is the build in GPS.

    • Michał Obuchowski

      I think CR corrected last week that GPS would, but WiFi wouldn’t be built in… might be wrong though…

  3. Liam Murphy

    Spec’s look good. I’m not so worried about Wifi, yea its a tool but really I’m more interested in things like Dynamic Range and the Autofocus. I never use the pop up on my camera so they could do away with that and I feel like anybody who’s going to be shelling out the $1500 on a 7D mkII probably going to use a speedlight.

    Really I will be waiting to see if I want to jump to FF or see if this Crop can measure up. I know people are crazy about their FF’s but with the advancements in some of the Crops and the lens systems for them (specifically Sigma’s commitment to them) the lines are increasingly blurred.

    • Stan Rogers

      Keep in mind that the pop-up is meant to allow you to trigger off-camera flashes without having to buy an extra one (or a separate controller) just for that purpose. You can use the radio with the 600EX-RT; not so much if you have 580s in your bag.

    • Liam Murphy

      I understand, I previously used my pop up to fire Slaves, After a few weeks of using it and realizing the limitations I bought cheap triggers and its more reliable.

  4. Kim Farrelly

    “20.2MP “Fine Detail” CMOS Sensor”

    Interesting, wonder what that is about, if anything. Considering the shift of use of photographs, most people don’t print big they mostly just post online, perhaps better detail on a sensor without amping up the pixels would be a nice idea.

    • Michał Obuchowski

      According to CR – Fine Detail sensor is Canon’s own nomenclature for Canon sensors in general.

  5. Phil Bautista

    If it’s true that Canon isn’t including Wifi in this camera, then I think they missed out on a great opportunity. If their target is the pro or enthusiast shooting sports or wildlife, then Wifi would be an extremely useful tool to have, specially long range and transmitting live view. This would allow photographers to set their cameras up in places where it wouldn’t be safe or practical for them to shoot from (think top of the backboard or on a drone or on a game trail) while monitoring the composition from a safe place. I own a CamRanger and even with the limited range, I still think it’s a great tool for my hobby. With all the various cameras coming out with wifi and with all the resources at Canon’s disposal, I think they should make a little more effort to get past the “metal body” issue if they want to stay ahead of the pack.

    • Austin Swenson

      You know, I am not sure outside of the outer part of the body why the innards even need to be metal, I mean, if the body were to be dropped, i guess it might be more stable, but even then I would be taking it to a shop to get fixed anyway, but if it’s lighter with metal, I guess I would probably take it.

    • Austin Swenson

      The dual digic processors have me interested as well as the potential for 10fps, I’m curious how they are able to justify that technology for a ~1,500 dollar camera, because that has to be some expensive tech. The only APS-C body I know of that does more than that is the Sony a77 mark i and ii at 12 fps, but they don’t have a mirror flipping up and down like this one would.

  6. Jose Lopez Moreno

    Good specs, but just falls out of being great! The only real good news out of these SPECS are the 60fps video settings. The MPs still fall short for what was expected, and the 65AF points seems interesting as well. But, we will know for sure what surprises CANON has for on the day of release! Great read!

  7. Ralph Hightower

    Okay, as a computer guy who looks at hardware performance, this is close to a 1Dx, but with an APS sensor, with dual Digic 6 chips and a blazing 10 frames per sec; the 1Dx had an additional Digic 5 chip and 12 fps. But coming from shooting full frame for 34 years to shooting digital, I didn’t know about shooting cropped. I researched and shooting wide on APS, I would feel cheated; on the telephoto side, I would enjoy cheating on the extended range.
    This is almost like Detroit’s “Planned Obsolescence” with cars. In the film era, Canon and Nikon would update their pro cameras on a 10 year cycle. Now, the lifecycle is shorter and new models with advanced features, it seems, are introduced on a 3 month cycle.
    I don’t know what I’ll replace my 5D Mk III with, but as long as there is film, I can use my A-1 and F-1N.

  8. Phil Bautista

    I realize this isn’t really a feature “pros” look for but, only 1080p at 60 fps? Even a GoPro can take it up to 240 fps. It would be nice to see super slo mo included. Or the ability to shoot in 4k. Those features aren’t really deal breakers but make for some really nice bells and whistles.

  9. Rafael Steffen

    Let’s see the sensor quality, because so far Nikon is beating everyone out there.

  10. Jeff Morrison

    I guess we still need to wait and see…

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